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Nov 22, 2020

I know their policy about virtual goods, but a lot of clients get their money back after a dispute

It is precisely because of the constant refund claims within PayPal that the company eventually decided to stop dealing with academic writing companies. It wasn't just about the academic institutions applying pressure on them. It was also about the constant bickering and refund claims that kept their mediation department busy with difficult to handle virtual claims, as no product is actually involved that led to the dissolution of the partnership between PayPal and academic writing sites.
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Nov 22, 2020
Essay Services / Found nursingessay.co.uk site [13]

F!*K U, little dirty spammer. Who are you trying to fool? You are not a student; you are a dirty, idiotic mongrel trying to market your 2 bit site.

I hope you washed your mouth out with soap. Astringent mouthwash won't be enough with that kind of filthy language spewing out of that hole. Where did all that anger come from? Why can't you ever speak properly or show some respect to the other users here? I am glad we got rid of you, eventually.
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Nov 22, 2020

ooks like I'm ripped off again (by trustmypaper / essayagents), this time over at Essay Chat..

Did you make sure to report the company to the administrators of this forum? They do not take kindly to con games being played by people that they have investigated and endorsed in this forum, even if it is in the Chat section. It is important that the writing pool endorsed by the forum remain untainted. The owners of this forum take pride in the legality of the businesses and people they endorse. They would remove any company that violates their trust in a heartbeat.
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Nov 22, 2020

1. Is this stupidity a likely cultural factor in x company providing essays and the acount manager assigned has been too enthusiastic/stupid?

- Yes, some cultures are so stupid to the point that their "intelligence" becomes laughable to even the moderately educated in the first world countries. They are mostly stupid which is why they use threats to try and get their way with the student. In their country, intimidation and fear is the best method to make a problem go away, so that is how they treat others as well.

2. Are these companies formed by seasoned lawyers ...

- No, they do not have a single legal consultant on staff. They only pretend to sound legal, since their business has no legal basis in their home country anyway. They copy the TOS from other reputable sites that actually have legal counsel and hope that the same rules can apply in their business. However, since they do not plan on functioning in a legal manner anyway, any legalese you find on their site or service terms are not valid.
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Nov 22, 2020

it would definitely help if there were discussion threads that were worth contributing value-adding messages to. Virtually all of the threads available on the public forums are vapid and value-repellant.

The powers that be at this forum have read this comment and actually acted upon it. They hope that creating value in the threads that have been posted can help to create a more peaceful and less intimidating forum where writers and students can interact, adding to each other's knowledge in the process. While this will be a difficult thing to accomplish, the people that own this forum hope that over time, they will succeed in reviving old threats that will be more interesting due to updated relevance for the students and writers.
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Nov 22, 2020

The backstabbing is all part of the game. The writers here seem to have a great need to tear each other down rather than prop each other up because of the client pool that is available. There are only a few clients to go around but several independent writers and company representatives to deal with. The students, who often get scared off by the in-fighting and never ending back stabbing eventually find a writer to work with or a company to hire anyway. They just use their own judgement and contact the writer or company rep directly to help them make up their minds about whom to hire, why, and at what cost. The backstabbing is all meant to scare off the other bidders, nothing that doesn't happen in a regular bidding war.
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Nov 22, 2020

Independent writers are more duty bound to produce the perfect paper for students. They are also far more accountable to the students due to the direct relationship they have to create during the order process. The independent writers also tend to not disappear at any time because they own their business and do not have the financial capacity to just keep changing business information or create umbrella sites that can help them hide from their professional responsibilities. Independent writers are professional and work hard for the money they earn, which is less than I can say for these so-called academic writing companies, that do not believe in a Code of Ethics and Standards as independent writers do.
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Nov 21, 2020

We're not a scam, we're a genuine hard-working small business trying to provide reliable revision aids for people

You protest too much. That tells me that you are the exact opposite of what you claim to be. You are also an in idiot if you think that you can find the order of the student based on what is obviously a fake username but real order information. You could not find it because you do not have the correct information. You should have asked the student for the correct information and continued the discussion offline. You are lucky the student did not follow up on the complaint after having read your post.

Or, could I be wrong and the OP was just a troll released into the forum to help besmirch the reputation of the company? Perhaps a competitor posted in the guise of a student? There are just so many ways that this discussion could have been perceived at the time of the original posting.
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Nov 21, 2020

Why, oh why, does the admin of this forum always allow the company representatives to post advertising in these threads. The claim that they do not allow promotions of any sort make me laugh at this point. The rule that nobody can recommend a site just makes me feel frustrated. This thread is nothing but company representatives trying to snare a poor student into their trap. May the best trapper win. Hopefully the student managed to avoid the traps set out and just hired a good writer or writing company in the end.
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Nov 21, 2020
Essay Services / Academic-Paper.co.uk [14]

I'm not sure that I can trust their claim of having 300 writers on staff. Ready and willing to work any paper at the drop of a hat. I have had people tell me that the writers attached to this company could very well be in grade school, rather than high school or college. I told them the writers are probably the lowest type of ESL writers in whatever country they are really located in. There is no evidence to prove that the company is actually located in the UK. Work with them at your own risk. Or better yet, don't work with them.
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Nov 21, 2020

CustomPapers staffers and writers have always been known for their ability to work well with their clients. They all bend over backwards to accommodate the students who rely on their services. They never have a cross word, never threaten the clients, never say that something cannot be done unless they pay extra, then fail to deliver. Their writers in particular, have been known to keep an open communication line with the students, but are quite rigid with their requirements. They expect the students to submit all of the require instructions and other reference materials prior to the start of work on the order. Once the order has been completed and submitted, revisions based on "additional information to improve the paper further" are not entertained anymore.
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Nov 21, 2020
Essay Services / EssayWriter.co.uk warning! [6]

2. the writer has been paid for work done on this order and we are unable to recover any of the fees paid to him.

Nothing can be further from the truth. Based on my experience as a company attached writer in the past, the company will actually take this complaint and begin refund proceedings against the writer. The company will pretend that a formal complaint was filed and the student demands a full refund. The company will then wait 2 weeks before telling the writer that the "investigation" has proven the student right. They will then dock the pay of the writer, the full cost of the order. The refund will then enter the company coffers. The student does not get the refund and the writer, loses his salary based on a real claim, but fake refund.
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Nov 21, 2020

Now they're asking me for two proofs of ID; one photo ID and the other is to prove my address.

Never submit official identification to any writing company. There are scam companies that use the payment system to collect personal information about the user, which they will then either sell or use for their own benefit in scamming ways. Always protect your identity and your payment information. Never deal with a company that will require you to prove your identify. As long as you pay through a legal payment channel, there is no need for them to confirm any information on your part. All that matters, is that your payment went through without a hitch.
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Nov 21, 2020

Individual writers can keep their costs down far better than a company can. The freelance writers have a more flexible cost per page because they allow students to haggle the price. The writers know how much they are work in terms of labor cost and cost per page. They do not have too much overhead to speak of, unlike the companies that hire a "Staff" to keep the company running 24/7/. The price per page will vary, it depends upon the topic, the length of time to the deadline, and how well you discuss the CPP with the writer. The more research the writer has to do, higher the cost. However, the farther the deadline, the cheaper the cost per page.
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Nov 21, 2020

"we'll take your essay and add it to our database so that future scans that you or other people make can be compared to it. "

This doesn;t make any sense. Why would a student willingly put his essay into a database where it can come up in any form that the writing company would want it to come up as? They can erase the student's name, thus making the paper "original" and the "property" of the company, making the student a plagiarist if the company wishes to. They can also resell the same paper to any student, then claim that the paper appears in the database because the student willingly submitted the essay for a plagiarism check. There are just too many problems with using these "free" plagiarism scanners. I still say, let the teacher do the plagiarism checking. Make the professor earn his salary by making him check for plagiarism. It should not be the student's job to prove the originality of his paper.
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Nov 21, 2020

These companies are scams that continue to run their con on students who do not know any better. They really know how to work the students and use words to get what they want out of the students. They have pretty good convincing power and often, seem to magically convince the students to use their services. Even students who have doubts hire them, only to be sorry in the end. Their sales people can really work the pitch so beware when dealing with any of these companies.
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Nov 21, 2020

Although their writer payouts were a bit affected by the early school closing due to the pandemic, they were able to pay their writers on time for the orders that were already paid and submitted to the students. There was a slight problem with the pending orders as the students often decided to cancel the orders and just do the work themselves since they were stuck at home anyway and their parents were wondering why they weren't getting any studying done at home. They worked on their own papers so as not to blow their cover with regards to hiring writers for their academic work. The writers were a bit worried at the time but the company came through for them and assisted them during the pandemic. So far, the writers who work for them really don't have any complaints. They seem to be one of the few good guys in the industry.
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Nov 18, 2020

They told me your account is terminated because of inactivity.

Yes, these companies seem to be confused about their relationship with their writers. The writers do not have an employment contract with them. They do not have any duty to time - in and time - out of the system. They are not bound by a writing quota per month. They are freelancers. They work when they want to. Which is why they are called "freelance" writers in the first place. They work when they want to. The company scammed you. They used that non-referenced time limit to their advantage. They don't need to prove there is such a rule in their TOS and, more importantly, they don't need to pay you since you did not meet the "deadline" for your writer progression as (not) indicated.
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Nov 18, 2020

Sounds to me like you were the victim of a employ by night firm. They pretend to employ writers, get them to work overtime, then with hold the pay with the promise of "payment at a later date" due to several "payment channel issues". They did not use that line on you because they could tell that you are familiar with the writing business and you would not take their crap for anything. Which is why they decided to simply accuse you of dishonesty, knowing very well it would be difficult for you to collect since you do not even have a freelance agreement with them.
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Nov 18, 2020

Their testimonials keep changing. The names stay the same, but what they say changes.

That's because they ask their writers to keep churning out positive reviews for their own website using the same recycled information every, single time. That is why the testimonials change very little, if at all. It is almost a cookie cutter testimonial. They do not even try to put any effort into updating the information. As long as they stay within the required presentation keywords, the company will pay them. That is all the writer is after and that is all the writer will get.
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Nov 18, 2020
Essay Services / Edusson.com - FRAUD! Beware! [6]

All these so-called "writers" are NOT REAL and are generated automatically to deceive customers! ... I put "Fake" as a title and "fake" as paper details. I got 6 bids in 30 seconds!!!

That may not necessarily be the case. Since you were obviously dealing with a 3rd world writing company, they have writers on standby, constantly looking at the server. There are almost imbecilic writers on their staff who actually take orders, even when there are no specifics provided by the student. They simply saw the cost per page and decided to scoop it up before someone else did. They always figure that the student will upload the actual information later on. Then they can decide if they want to work on the paper, pretend to work on the paper and submit crap, of if they will simply have the order reassigned.
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Nov 18, 2020

It should also depend on the revision policy of the company. If the company does not offer any revision assurance of sort, then the student should expect to be charged for the revisions, regardless of the error of the writer. That is how that company makes their money. However, if the company offers unlimited revisions, then the student should not be charged for any revisions, regardless of who was at fault. The student already pre-paid for the revisions. Next time, ask about the revision policy before you sign up for the service.
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Nov 17, 2020
Essay Services / SCAM ALERT: essayssos.com [11]

Any student who hires the company based on "Ooohhhh! Shiny!" will really find himself in trouble. While there are no testimonials to their service on their actual site, they have spammed other websites offering "reviews" of their work. They have their own writers pose as "Students" who promote their services as best as they can. The problem with that? Is that the "students" themselves blow their covers and are easily spotted as paid promoters of the site, which makes the potential client shy away immediately.
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Nov 17, 2020

I would have to say that the company is a total scam. Their writers don't know how to write. They don't even realize when the sentences they are writing are conflicting and comes across as utter nonsense to the readers. They describe their writing experience from the company as follows:

Technically, not the best, but close. Above descent for sure, and probably the best to work for. A low high-end service is where you would wanna work though. Higher-ups will just want too much from you. Here you get the flexibility and plenty of opportunity. Winning!

Huh? I bet Katie isn't from the United States either. Any guesses on where Katie is truly from?
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Nov 17, 2020

Go with custompapers if you really want to experience a fantastic writing job. The work experience a student has with that company is always a good one. I often refer my excess clients to their company whenever I find my own company swamped with work. I have yet to hear about a disappointed student among my referrals. They truly focus on the needs of the student and ensure that the students gets the paper that they want or need, the first time.
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Nov 17, 2020

The service of this company focuses only on application essay writing. Unfortunately, they do a very bad job about it. I read the blurbs on their site and it really sounds like they used their own writers to create those glowing reviews. In actuality, the students that dealt with them would all like to file a class suit to get their money back. They are dismal failures at their jobs. They cannot write a proper application essay even with all of the information that the applicant provides to them. The writers are also lousy at keeping the applicant informed about the status of their essays. Not to mention, they cannot tell the difference between a personal statement and a statement of purpose !
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Nov 15, 2020

The OP was directed to a company owned reviews page. Which means the testimonials available are paid. They only allow positive reviews, written by their writers themselves, posing as students, to create the glowing reviews. If you cannot find an independent review then the site is not one you can trust. There are several client based review sites available online that are just as helpful and truthful as ES, always use those sites and ES as your baseline for trusting a company or independent writer.
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Nov 15, 2020

If you cannot find any information about this company online, it is always best to stay away. When you need to rely only on chats with their client representatives, who is trained to tell lies or half truths, then you are going to be in for a heap of trouble. The best thing to do, when you cannot find any background, service, or client related experience regarding the company online is, to simply find a company you can at least verify at this forum. Otherwise, you may be walking into a cash trap with no way out.
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Nov 15, 2020

How did the company get your email address in the first place? It appears to signed up for their newsletter or other service notifications. Otherwise, you would not be getting spammed. I am also wondering why you did not ask the client representative to stop sending you spam since you never hired their services. It appears that you weren't serious about not dealing with the company. Otherwise, you would have done that first thing. I hope you did not make that mistake.
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Nov 15, 2020

I've looked them up on whois and both sites appear to have been registered for years.

A whois lookup does not prove anything. These are paid services that do not give out the actual location of the company, the client experience, and the kind of writers they have. Whois used to be able to serve a purpose when investigating the companies. However, the amount of pinging done these days to mask the actual location of the server or company really made this a totally unreliable way of proving the location of a company. Which means, you cannot be sure of the quality of work as well.
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Nov 15, 2020
Essay Services / Dealing with ehomework.ca [18]

The company tries its best to focus on Canadian clients only. Their problem is that their service is highly inconsistent. There are no real testimonials that support the quality of this website. When I contacted my Canadian contacts, they made it very clear to me that native Canadian students do their best to steer clear of this company because they do not employ Canadian writers as they claim to. Their writers come out of the 3rd world, which is why the quality of the work is inconsistent. If you get a well educated 3rd world writer, then you might have a usable enough paper. Most of the time you won't. Yes, they do threaten the students who try to get refunds. Which is why they would rather have ESL clients. The ESL students can easily be pressured into withdrawing their charge back claims based on bullying, threats, and blackmail.
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Nov 13, 2020
Essay Services / SimpleTense.com review/advice [5]

The company does not treat the writers very well. They are underpaid and often find that there are not enough work available for them. Although the company claims to be flexible when it comes to their writers payment rates, I have yet to see evidence of that. The limited work availability is actually the reason why they do not hold on to their high quality writers. Only the ESL writers manage to stay on long term with them. That said, I do not believe that a non-Chinese student should hire their service. As for the writers, well, you can do better.
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Nov 13, 2020

When a company ranks 181st among the internationally ranked writing sites, I question the quality of work that they deliver. When I went ahead and used my contacts to get an update on this service, the reports I got were horrible. The papers were plagiarized, sometimes submitted half done. The grammar was described as elementary at best, in a dissertation paper, and can only be used by ESL students who are just happy to submit requirements, never mind the grades. Being Ukrainian, one cannot expect the company and its staff to actually care about the papers they produce. They only care about collecting the money, and making it difficult for the student to get his money back once the crapsheet is submitted to the student.
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Nov 13, 2020
Essay Services / anyone know of s2papers [41]

While the limited writing field of the company remains a problem for them. I believe that they keep the scope of work limited because their writers are also limited in expertise. Rather than fooling the clients into believing that their writers are the second coming of Christ, they tell the truth, which the clients appreciate. Their client care is exemplary. They have highly respectful agents on the phone and I have yet to come across a previous client of theirs who became cross with the service.
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Nov 13, 2020

The OP mentioned submitting the essay to Turnitin but did not mention the originality percentage of the paper. I guess it came up as not plagiarized though. If it was plagiarized, I doubt he would have submitted the paper to await the comment of his teacher. So I guess the company did something good. Granted that they were lousy at client services, having submitted an original paper is something unique to these types of companies so I would have to ask the OP to balance the bad experience with the good. I doubt he failed with the paper he got. It would have been the first thing he mentioned in the post.
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Nov 12, 2020
Essay Services / custom-writing.org review [15]

The company tends to give itself glowing reviews on its own website. Never believe the testimonials published on the company site. Always look for other sources of information. It appears that the service is merely "acceptable" to most students. They found the value per page to be worth the price, the client service was good, but they did not perform well in terms of refunds. No problem though, most students were satisfied with the quality of their work. However, there were times when they failed to deliver the paper on time. However, the student I spoke to said that it was a one time missed deadline on their part. They normally work well within the requirements of the student.
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Nov 12, 2020

assignmenthelp is one of the worst frauds in the business. I suspect that their writers also confer with other, more capable writers before writing any paper. The writers of this company are not even high school graduates in some instances. It is bad enough that they are not really American writers, but to have non-high school graduates working on college level papers? Exactly how did they think they would stay in business? Eventually, their con will be discovered by enough students to spread the word , which eventually result in their company being shut down. In the meantime, pretend the company is Covid infected and run away from their services.
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Nov 12, 2020

As far as I know, superior papers was recently purchased by Academia-Research.com. Yes, the scam companies tend to buy one another out for the simple reason that they are trying to keep the scam company crowd small. The "sale" is usually just a new partnership with shares being distributed among the "investors". They keep the original name and just fold it into the new company to avoid business closure problems. Normally, it is the company that has the most refund claims that often sells to whoever is interested in buying the company and its writing pool.
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Nov 12, 2020

This is one lucky student. Those who are considering hiring any writing service should take note of how the student handled the situation in order to claim a full refund. The minute that you suspect that the service will be unable to deliver, begin the refund process right away. Do not "give them a chance" because that is the worst thing you can do. That mistake, of giving them a chance to prove their quality of work will always backfire and create a headache of a refund claim on the part of the student.
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Nov 12, 2020

You should always ask the company or the writer for a payment deal that can benefit you in the end. The deal is this, pay them a 25% upfront fee upon the acceptance of the order. Then, pay another 25% if you are satisfied with the "draft" version of the essay. The draft version is the unfinished paper that at least shows you the direction the paper is headed in. If you are satisfied, pay the 25% approved draft fee, then the balance upon submission of the whole paper. If you are not satisfied, then you can cancel the paper and demand that you be refunded the 25% upfront free.